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hobie
01-04-2003, 09:10 PM
Do y'all agree w/this review that was posted on another site?



Modest Mouse
The Fruit That Ate Itself
7/10

Many people complain about Modest Mouse's long-windedness, their albums go on quite awhile, repetitve. While this, in my estimation, is just a product of Isaac having a lot to say, "the fruit that ate itself" is Modest Mouse shrunk down into 3 minute nuggets of groove and even more interesting backwards noise. The album (which is done indie-style, with K records) lasts for barely 20 minutes, but that means that Isaac and co. stick in yr. head longer, and generally do a better job than their earlier or later works. There are 3 tracks of simply joyful noises, Modest Mouse records spinning backwards, which require no talent, but are among the most interesting Modest Mouse, and they are necessary for the album. Debatably, "the fruit that ate itself" contains Modest Mouse's 2 greatest songs, "sunspots in the house of the late scapegoat", which just grooves and rolls catchy as ever, and "summer" - a very pretty tune. Isaac's vocals are very raw overall, a good thing. The rekkerd has some faults, notably: Karma's Payment. It suffers from being the most boring song, but also the last, so the conclusion to the great album is merely... below average. The song is saved by a clever lyric (which you could get just from reading the title) and an excellent whistle in the background. "Dirty Fingernails" is unbearable in parts as well, yet if listened to closely, it can be soothing, which makes this song definetly very odd indeed. Also, the artwork is horrendous, and liner notes dont exist.
The answer: this is modest mouse. If you like the band, then you should get the album, it will be among yr. favorites by them. If you like interesting indie rock, this short album is the place to start for Modest Mouse, as its everything the band is about (the large amounts of clever lyrics, catchiness, strained vox, great drumming, groovy) in short morsels, held together with consistency. You aren't missing a classic or stupendous album by not owning this, just a (too) short summary of one of the most interesting bands making music today.

hobie
01-04-2003, 09:15 PM
My thoughts were this:



Concerning Karma's Payment...
I have to disagree wholeheartedly! Karma's Payment is the one song that makes this release. *imo* It's the one song that I constantly keep playing over and over and over again, from The Fruit That Ate Itself. My only gripe is that it’s too short and should have been worked on longer, as it’s a great track.


Concerning Dirty Fingernails...
Another song that I highly enjoy off of this particular release. :(


Concerning The Fruit that Ate Itself as being a good place to start if you want to get to know MM...
O'no way! This is NOT the place to start nor would I even recommend this release as a 'get to know MM." Maybe "The Moon and Antarctica" but not this. You must be a die hard MM fan to enjoy this release as its full of mindless tunes, which would only be appreciated by MM fans. Well, once again, that's my opinion. Actually, I do know someone who started off w/this cd and HATED MM due to such, and I had to BEG them to give MM another try, and encouraged them to list to "Building Nothing Out of Something" or "Lonesome Crowded West" or "The Moon and Antarctica " which they opted for "The Lonesome Crowded West" which needless to say...they LOVED and soon became a MM fan.


I also said that, I personally enjoy this cd but its definitely not one of my 'favorites' from MM nor would I even encourage a Non-MM to purchase this. It's not the best cd to start off with. So, do y'all agree/disagree?
Emmy

hobie
01-04-2003, 09:19 PM
BTW:


I really LOVE Karma's Payment. Do any of y'all? :(
Emmy

Godspeed
01-19-2003, 11:01 PM
was fucking drunk. for one this is definetly not a start off album, two every song is awesome in its own way and what he/she said bad about the songs were actually the best songs. that fucker is a moron and should have never wrote that review

irunyourunwerun
06-28-2003, 10:56 AM
was fucking drunk. for one this is definetly not a start off album, two every song is awesome in its own way and what he/she said bad about the songs were actually the best songs. that fucker is a moron and should have never wrote that review


this I agree with.

kid koala
10-16-2003, 10:44 PM
i wonder if he even really listened to it, or just kind of heard it..

karma payment plan is the best.

3rdplanetboy85
05-25-2004, 08:46 PM
i know that this topic is extreamly old but i thought i would reply anyways... no i would not agree with this review... like many has said this is not a good place to start but it did prep me for lonsome crowded west better (seeing how LCW is wayyy better and yet similar in some ways)..for me i downloaded this EP because i found out that modest mouse's older sound was allot different so i wanted to to "jump in the pool all at once" with their older stuff...anywho karma payment plan is the best song on this album easily... but dirty fingernails is one of my least favorites of theirs EVER... but this is how i would recomend for first timers... People into punk or (or what they think is punk and or fucking "emo")-lonesome crowded west ...for people into ambient melodic alt/rock (example = radiohead, flaming lips,ect) i would recomend moon and antarctica..

Pinback
05-25-2004, 10:09 PM
Karma Payment Plan is THE song, it's my favorite of all songs, I love the sound, and the lyrics are geniously true.

fourfingeredfisherman
05-25-2004, 10:14 PM
i really really like karma's payment and dirty fingernails and the waydown and sunspots and the summer....hey i really like the whole thing! I didn't hear this record until i'd been listening to mm for over a year so i was really used to them by then and definitely really liking them.

Cassandra
05-26-2004, 04:46 PM
I listen to this album all the time! It wasn't a bad review though.....just a bit odd.

genevadiva
05-28-2004, 02:05 PM
I dont have this album, but am definetly wanting it BAD!!! I know I will love it, I've been a fan from the start of MM. I've heard Karmas Payment and absolutely loved it. I heard a little of Dirty Fingernails and loved that as well. All of this talk is encouraging me to go and get it this weekend. Once I do, I'll have more to add to this conversation...

QTIP1913
05-28-2004, 04:37 PM
Surprise ;) Happy Early Birthday!!!!!! From LDR

king vapors
05-29-2004, 02:06 AM
That takes guts, writing a review without even having listened to the album first. Maybe I'll try it sometime, just for kicks.

Because The Fruit is golden. Even Dirty Fingernails. The music's good at times, but the lyrics always give me day dreams.

I remember when all I was doing was waiting for the year 2000, too. Fuck yeah.

Bean
05-29-2004, 02:35 PM
This album rocks, from start to finish.

It's my second favorite to M+A.

henry
05-30-2004, 07:37 AM
weird review. i totally agree with some of it and totally disagree with some of it. what i personally do disagree with is O'no way! This is NOT the place to start nor would I even recommend this release as a 'get to know MM." Maybe "The Moon and Antarctica" but not this. You must be a die hard MM fan to enjoy this release as its full of mindless tunes, which would only be appreciated by MM fans.
i just think all modest mouse is fantastic and dead fucking easy for me to get into.
i would encourage anyone i had a semblance of respect for to buy this album.

trailertrash
06-15-2004, 01:08 AM
I think the fruit that ate itself is an EP, not a full album.

Nontheless, I enjoy it.